How do you translate this phrase "龜兒子" into English according to the definition from the Chinese dictionary?

Is the translation "a brothel owner" correct? I am thinking another one.



Tim,

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Thank you.



http://140.111.34.46/cgi-bin/dict/GetContent.cgi?Database=dict&DocNum=62779&GraphicWord=yes&QueryString=%C0t%A8%E0%A4l

http://tw.news.yahoo.com/060510/15/34fl0.html

The following are the definitions from different Chinese dictionaries:

新編國語日報辭典

龜：罵人的話。唐代樂戶頭戴綠色頭巾，龜的頭暗綠色，所以說戴綠頭巾的是龜。 又樂戶的妻女都是歌妓，所以稱開妓院或是讓妻女賣淫的人為龜。


重編國語辭典

龜：罵人的話。唐代樂戶戴綠頭巾，後因龜的頭亦綠色，故比喻開設妓院的男子，及其縱其妻女淫行的人為龜。


國語活用辭典

龜孫子：俗稱開設妓院的男子，及放縱妻女淫行的男子。


漢語大辭典

龜：(1) 譏稱其妻有外遇的人 (2) 舊時開設妓院的男子。
龜兒/龜兒子：方言，詈詞 ( 以言語相罵 )。


My translation would be as follows:

1. a brothel owner
2. the man who indulges his wife and daughter to have sexual relationships with men

Another two related terms for you guys.

龜公: Similar to 烏龜 or 龜孫子. In English it's called cuckold, but applied differntly. If somebody wears the horns, that means he is a cuckold. Some people also call this guy a head pimp or stable boss.

龜奴: Could be a pimp or just a guy who works in a brothel.

Tim

Tim,

Thank you so much for the information.

Would you explain why the cuckold wears the horns? Do you know the origin?

Thank you.

Elinor,

Check the last phrase at http://www.bartleby.com/81/8465.html

Tim

Tim,

Thanks a lot.


Elinor

Is SOT widely used to represent Son of Turtle?

The word sot means a drunkard.
34 definitions of SOT are found at:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=SOT&p=dict

and 73 other definitions of SOT are found at:
http://www.acronymattic.com/results.aspx?q=SOT

but no definition as Son of Turtle is included.

It's natural you can't find it in the two acronym lists. This term just popped up not too long ago after some news event in Taiwan. It is not even following the pattern of idiomatic English. In idiomatic English, it should be either Son of a Turtle or Son of the Turtle.

Tim

Interesting.
So Turtle implies someone in a latest event, doesn't it? Can you enlighten us who the person should have been, Tim?

Is the rude idiom son of a gun a similar one?

For your reference:

When informed President Chen wouldn't stop over at Anchorage on his way back, a U.S. State Department official just said he knows it, a Broadcasting Corporation of China report from Washington said yesterday.

"We can't write a story with such a short comment," one reporter complained, the report said. He was told jokingly the Taiwan media could write volumes on just three words: "son of turtle."

One top-ranking official on Chen's entourage said the president would be "a son of a turtle," if he would stop over at Anchorage. Chen himself said he did not want to do so to defend the "dignity of the country."

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/backissue/taiwan/detail.asp?ID=82010&GRP=B


據報道，臺當局該高層人士強調，當初美國不但開出“過境檀香山及阿拉斯加，只能停留五個小時，且不能出機場”的嚴苛條件，而且說“就這樣了”，不給任何商量空間，欺人太甚。他指出，陳水扁決定去程不“過境”美國，絕不是意氣用事，如果接受美方的“過境”條件，等於是把“國家”尊嚴讓人踩在腳下，以後怎么再跟美國交涉，豈不成為“臺灣罪人”？ 他並不滿地說，“難道要當美國龜兒子，才是維護臺美關係嗎？”

據了解，臺灣特使團一路上批評美國的言論，“美國在臺協會”不但全程密切掌握，而且已經逐一回報給布希政府高層。

美方的一些中國通甚至還為了“龜兒子”這個詞要怎么翻譯大傷腦筋，接近布希政府的外交圈人士表示，這些話的用字實在太重了，美方高層官員聽到之後很不高興，可能比“過境”風波本身對臺美關係的殺傷力更大。


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